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Post by 溪山 on Nov 3, 2020 23:50:09 GMT -5
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Post by 溪山 on Nov 4, 2020 0:46:24 GMT -5
看起来这选举也真不是一个轻松的事情。总有人赢,也总有人会输。再说,选区怎样划分,有人作弊怎么办?点票程序,捐款限制,一人一票还是其他形式?还有,边远落后地区和沿海大、中城市利益不同,理念、想法也不同,需求不同,等等等等。大多数人都选择就一定是合理的吗? 想到这些麻烦问题,我对中国是否需要实行选举就信心不足了。 Yes, too many "麻烦问题"s. My reflection on this election and democracy: You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.
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Post by 李斯 on Nov 4, 2020 1:45:42 GMT -5
"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink."
An excellent comparison indeed, thanks.
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Post by 听雨 on Nov 4, 2020 12:56:42 GMT -5
山重水复疑无路,柳暗花明又一村。
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Post by 溪山 on Nov 4, 2020 13:28:36 GMT -5
Yes, the results seemed quite depressing last night.
The tables are turned.
Haydn, Symphony No. 94 in G Major (Surprise) Second Movement: Andante
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Post by 溪山 on Nov 4, 2020 18:23:15 GMT -5
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Post by 边 草 on Nov 4, 2020 19:50:04 GMT -5
自由亚洲电台/美国之音: 中国网民热衷翻墙看美国大选 空前投入喊过瘾
美国总统选举本周三(北京时间)开票,中国民众对此表现出罕有的兴趣。在海内外的聊天平台,中国网民都在议论美国选情。很多人使用官方禁止的“翻墙”工具,将美国选情从“墙外”搬到“墙内”。
据自由亚洲今天报道称,中国网民“翻墙”围观美国选举,关切未来政策是否持续对中共施压。
本周三(4日),美国驻中国大使馆在微博发帖,简介美国总统如何由选举人产生。引来网民热议,有人留言“美国咋那么麻烦,都坐下来举手表态不好吗!”也有网民语带相关说“感谢美国,又让中国老百姓过了一次直接参与大选的嘴瘾”。不过,不少人留言支持特朗普连任,还戏称特朗普反中,反而帮了中国。
关注美国总统选举的北京学者周仝当天接受自由亚洲采访时表示,中国人特别关注美国这次的总统选举:“拜登不管怎么样,作为民主党的代表,他更多的是在调和中美之间的关系。从美国政策来说,民主党一向是以调和中美关系为主。民主党不太愿意(和中国)对抗,即便是乔.拜登赢了,他会从现在对抗的这种状态,向后撤,谋求双方共同的一种舒适圈。”周仝认为,相比特朗普对华的强硬态度,拜登反而在寻求与中国缓和紧张的关系:“现在中国政府需要的是压力刺激他发展,这种压力而且是越大越好。在这种情况下,我们可能也需要一个更强势的美国总统。因为目前的中国问题就是民主和专制之间的战争,不仅仅是中国人的问题,它是全人类的问题。”
湖北网民高先生对自由亚洲说,他支持特朗普连任是因为他的强硬政策:“首先特朗普这次竞选总统的主要争取对象是老百姓,所以他在财团里面没有人对他加以赞赏,而反对他当总统。他(特朗普)是为正义而战的总统。特朗普在这一次抽干沼泽地的过程中,得罪的肯定是权贵、财团跟某方面有勾搭的利益集团。太强大了。希望特朗普连任。”
该报道说,该台记者在各聊天平台观察,发现无论“墙外”及“墙内”的聊天群,大部分人支持特朗普连任,但在异议人士中,却也有人支持拜登当选美国总统。
中国法律界人士李先生对自由亚洲说,美国的总统选举,从未像今天这样引起中国人的关注:“而中国民间,尤其是异议人士之间对拜登和特朗普之间竞选,分歧非常严重。这恰恰说明这一次大选非常关键,已不是美国人在两者中间选一个未来美国总统,而是关系到很多的方面。”希望特朗普连任的学者李先生说:“特朗普胜选之后,他能够对中共有真正的遏制作用,我们知道奥巴马执政8年以及克林顿,他们跟中共实际上处于很火热的关系。不仅是美国人希望美国有所改变,我们作为反中共的人,我也希望美国在对中共的态度上,有所改变。”
该报道说,官媒《环球时报》本周二发表社评《美大选结果的不确定性不光是技术性的》,未触及对总统参选人的评论。周三,中国媒体对美国总统选举的报道显得小心翼翼,似乎有意回避其政治立场。反而中国民众比媒体更关注美国总统选举,宣传部门亦没有着力在网上管控有关美国大选的资讯。也有支持拜登的中国网民认为,如果拜登赢得此次美国总统选举,他可能会取消对中国进口货品加征高额关税,持续了两年多的美中紧张关系将有所缓解,同时亦会减少南海军事冲突的机会,台海紧张局势亦不再升温。不过,也有网民认为,无论谁出任美国新一届总统,其对华政策不会有太大的改变。
美国大选惊心动魄,中国民众空前投入 直呼过瘾
2020年美国总统选举开票过程跌宕起伏,扣人心悬。它不仅对美国人是这样,对大洋彼岸的中国民众来说,也是如此。他们对这场令人激动的“超级绝伦”的赛事投入了罕见的热情。
总体上看,中国官媒对美国的这次大选相当冷淡。这大致符合中共的态度。有消息说,中共向媒体下达了指令,要求媒体控制报道尺度和内容,对有关美国大选的新闻必须经过“统一安排”,要以新华社的报道为主。
官方冷淡,严控报道
据自由亚洲电台消息,中共下达的通知说“不得擅自转载外媒、不得跟进报道”,要按照“我国发言人就相关情况表态”,“不得激化过激情绪、防止舆论炒热走偏”,“严防反美、抵制美国等煽动性、行动性信息”。
中国外交部发言人汪文斌在周三(11月4日)的例行记者会上表示,“美国总统选举正在进行中,结果尚未确定。而美国的大选是美国内政,中方在这个问题上不持立场。”
汪文斌虽然表示对美国选举不持立场,但从中共最近几个月的表现看,他们似乎对民主党候选人拜登更有好感。
美中贸易战、美中在南中国海和台湾海峡的军事对抗、以及美国政府对中国科技企业的持续性施压,让中共对特朗普已经不抱希望。一些分析人士称,习近平希望白宫更换主人减缓美国对中国的压力,早已是公开的秘密。
在中共的控制下,中国的网络、电视和官方报纸上出现了大量有关美国选举的负面新闻,比如人民日报报道美国商家封钉门窗,在“纷乱中迎来大选”;央视反复播出先前街头骚乱的旧片;环球网则发表“这次美国大选坑了全世界”等文章。
但是,在社媒体上,除了转发一些新华的通稿之外,公众号和个人用户多少也发出了一些报道和评论。中国最热门的社媒体今日头条也出现了不少跟踪美国投票和开票进程的持续性报道。
很有意思的是,新浪财经在4日晚上竟然在选举开票初期就发出了这样一条快讯:
快讯:大选结果出炉,特朗普连任
中国棉花网专讯:截至北京时间11月4日上午11时,美国总统特朗普的选举人票已达到280张,连任已无悬念。
这条快讯虽然很不准确,却可以看出作者对这次选举的倾向和急迫的心情。
民众热情空前高涨
与中国官方冷处理截然不同的是中国民众的态度。大量的中国人通过微信、推特和其它多种渠道了解投票的进展,表现出的热情令人意外。
一位署名“朝天椒”的大陆网友在描述自己观看这次选举开票过程的心情时说,选情的变化令人非常紧张。“这种感觉很久都没有了”,这“完全就是一场超级绝伦的竞技赛事,它能带给我们远胜于任何一项体育大赛的激情和快乐,无论是喜悦还是悲伤。”
美国之音记者收到国内不少朋友、亲属的询问,打听究竟谁能够当选。有的表示,特朗普对中国不好,希望拜登当选。有的则持相反的态度,希望特朗普当选,继续对中共施加压力。
今日头条上,一位名叫艾阿迦的网友说:“从来没有像现在这样关心美国政治。”
另一位叫做“天空”的网友说:“美国总统到底是拜登还是特朗普,你看好谁?”
中国的网友还把标有“滨州”和“德州”的山东地图上传到自媒体上,称无论特朗普还是拜登,要获胜就先要赢得山东,因为“宾州”(美国的摇摆州宾夕法尼亚州)和“德州”(美国另一个主要战场州德克萨斯州)都在中国的山东。
还有网友把红色的中国地图传到网上,称美国共和党拿到了中国270张选举人票和14亿张普选票。共和党的标志是红色,民主党的标志是蓝色。在美国选举开票过程中,候选人赢得一州,该州的颜色就变成他所在党的颜色。
美国之音的美国大选之夜特别节目目前在Youtube(油管)上已经吸引了近13万观众,其中就有许多来自中国大陆的。一位名叫“中国人在大陆”的网友在观众评论中写道:“谁当选都是民主胜利,都是美国人民的胜利,自由世界的胜利,希望美国人民理智对待结果,别被专制独裁者利用。我是大陆人,我们的官员都是上级领导任命,官员不管百姓死活,中国人付出最多,回报最少,住房,教育,养老,医疗,样样办不好,体制决定了领导不对百姓负责。中国人希望早日能选择自己的领导人,只是我们没办法发声,翻墙的百姓很少,也没时间和精力翻墙,民主世界看到的大部分声音都是领导人安排的网络评论员。民选领导人万岁!”
但也有一些中国网民显然受到中国官方的影响,对这场选举持有负面的评价。
一名微博上用户周三表示,“不论他是赢是输,他的最后使命就是摧毁美国民主的外衣”。
另外一人说:“让特朗普当选连任,把美国带向衰落。”
中国官媒环球时报总编胡锡进在这个时刻是不会缺席的。他到推特上制造虚假消息,抹黑美国大选。他发出的一条推文描述了美国一些店铺为了预防可能发生的骚乱而在店铺门面上钉上了木板的情形。推文说:“这种骚乱通常是贫穷国家选举的综合症。但是,人们担心这种情况会在美国出现。美国在堕落。”
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Post by 溪山 on Nov 4, 2020 22:47:12 GMT -5
美国是民主有待完善。 大洋那边是根本没有民主。
still lots of twists and turns ahead.
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Post by 李斯 on Nov 4, 2020 22:57:30 GMT -5
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Post by 溪山 on Nov 5, 2020 1:08:37 GMT -5
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Post by 李斯 on Nov 5, 2020 7:59:48 GMT -5
Sorry, I'll fix it later.
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Post by 李斯 on Nov 5, 2020 8:06:20 GMT -5
The story behind the historical moment by NYT
WASHINGTON — With Florida looking red early on Tuesday night, President Trump and his advisers thought they were witnessing a repeat of election night 2016, when a victory in Florida foreshadowed a victory over all.
Inside the East Room, the mood was upbeat as hundreds of people, including cabinet secretaries, ambassadors and former officials who have remained loyal to Mr. Trump, mingled and dined on sliders and French fries. Officials who had been pessimistic about the president’s re-election chances suddenly started to picture four more years in power.
That mirage of victory was pierced when Fox News called Arizona for former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. at 11:20 p.m., with just 73 percent of the state’s vote counted.
Mr. Trump and his advisers erupted at the news. If it was true that Arizona was lost, it would call into doubt on any claim of victory the president might be able to make.
What ensued for Mr. Trump was a night of angry calls to Republican governors and advice from campaign aides that he ignored, leading to a middle-of-the-night presidential briefing in which he made a reckless and unsubstantiated string of remarks about the democratic process. Standing in the East Room at 2:30 a.m., he dismissed the election as a “fraud” and claimed he wanted to stop the counting of votes and leave the results to the Supreme Court.
The Trump campaign knew Arizona could be up for grabs, but the Fox News call putting it in Mr. Biden’s column was symbolic, making it the first state that appeared to have flipped from the president’s 2016 batch of winning states. Gov. Doug Ducey, Republican of Arizona, had been on the phone all night with administration officials and campaign staff members, adamant that there were still Republican votes to be counted in his state.
Jason Miller, Mr. Trump’s political adviser, disputed the accuracy of the call on Twitter and frantically called Fox News, asking the network to retract it. He was unsuccessful. Instead of retracting it, the decision desk at Fox News doubled down on its call, putting Arnon Mishkin, the head of the desk, on air to defend the call. Several hours later, The Associated Press also called Arizona for Mr. Biden. (Other news organizations, including The New York Times and CNN, had not declared a victor by Wednesday afternoon because of absentee ballots that remained to be counted.)
Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law and senior adviser, was also in touch with Rupert Murdoch, the Fox News owner, as the night wore on. And on Wednesday morning, Mr. Trump’s campaign manager, Bill Stepien, insisted the president would win Arizona by 30,000 votes.
Keeping Arizona in play was critical to the narrow path the campaign still saw to a victory on Wednesday, along with Georgia and Pennsylvania.
Mr. Trump spent much of Tuesday evening and early Wednesday watching election results roll in on Fox News from the White House residence, where he connected with several Republican governors on the phone. In conversations with Gov. Greg Abbott of Texas and Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida, he asked about the possibility that fraud was being committed, according to people briefed on the call.
On Twitter, Mr. Ducey insisted that all the counting be completed before anyone else called the state.
Angry and feeling stung, the president and his aides watched as Mr. Biden gave a brief speech in Wilmington, Del., projecting victory for himself. “We feel good about where we are, we really do,” Mr. Biden told supporters, who honked their horns in support. “We believe we are on track to win this election.”
While Mr. Biden was speaking, the president tweeted for the first time all night, baselessly claiming that Democrats were trying to “steal” the election. In a follow-up tweet, he said that he, too, would deliver remarks. A podium with a presidential seal had already been set up in the East Room.
Mr. Trump’s advisers tried to persuade Mr. Trump to speak in the East Room before Mr. Biden made his remarks in Wilmington, but they were unsuccessful. Instead, they sat and watched as Mr. Biden set the tone for the night.
So it was hours before Mr. Trump actually appeared in the East Room. In the Oval Office, he huddled with aides who discussed how to frame the state of the race and whether he could declare victory or should take a more subtle tone.
He did not choose the latter approach.
“This is a fraud on the American public,” he told a crowd of supporters at 2:30 a.m., in remarks that were immediately criticized even by some of his allies, like Chris Christie, the former New Jersey governor. The president continued: “This is an embarrassment to our country. We were getting ready to win this election. Frankly, we did win the election.”
As the map closed in on the Trump campaign on Wednesday, with Michigan and Wisconsin being called for Mr. Biden, the president was not seen in public all day. A Marine who stands guard in front of the West Wing doors when the president is in the Oval Office had not been spotted all day.
From the residence, Mr. Trump continued making calls to supporters and friends throughout the morning, sounding subdued and somewhat dispirited to some people. Outside the White House, finger-pointing about what went wrong had already begun. Some aides said that Mr. Trump had often resisted entreaties from Ronna McDaniel, chairwoman of the Republican National Committee, and Brad Parscale, his former campaign manager, and others to spend more time in Arizona. But they said he had resisted in part because he did not like traveling west and spending the night on the road.
They and several other aides had also tried and failed to get Mr. Trump to stop attacking an Arizona favorite son and war hero, Senator John McCain, a Republican whom the president has continued to criticize even after the senator’s death two years ago.
There were also questions as to whether, had the campaign not spent so much money before the coronavirus pandemic began, it might have had extra resources to spend in states where Mr. Biden had won or was leading by slim margins, like Wisconsin, Michigan and Nevada.
But others defended the early spending by Mr. Parscale, who among other things had focused on increasing the president’s turnout with Latino voters, who ended up being a key part of his support in Florida.
On Wednesday, the president’s family was heavily involved in efforts to question the validity of the vote tallies. Mr. Trump had joked at a rally that if he lost, he would never speak to any of his adult children again.
Mr. Kushner was making calls, looking for what he described as a “James Baker-like” figure who could lead the legal effort to dispute the tabulations in different states, according to a person briefed on the discussions. (Mr. Baker led George W. Bush’s successful recount case in 2000.) The president’s eldest son, Donald Trump Jr., was working out of the campaign headquarters in Virginia. Another son, Eric Trump, whose wife, Lara, has been heavily involved in campaign activities, spoke at a news conference in Philadelphia, alongside Rudolph W. Giuliani, the former New York mayor.
“They’re not letting poll watchers watch the polls,” a visibly angry Eric Trump said, in a baseless attempt to cast doubt on the ballot counting still ongoing in Pennsylvania. Mr. Giuliani, the president’s personal lawyer, also made the groundless assertion that the election in Pennsylvania was being stolen. He also floated the idea of a “national lawsuit” about allegations of fraud, but it was not clear what that meant.
For all of the president’s superstitions, and his attempts to surround himself with the team that helped lead him to victory four years ago, he found himself in a far weaker position this time. In the final weeks before Election Day, Mr. Kushner reassembled a group of people who had been involved in Mr. Trump’s first campaign, including the former White House deputy chief of staff, Katie Walsh, to work with Mr. Miller and others on the final weeks of spending on television.
But by Wednesday, several White House officials and outside advisers said they were hopeful, but not particularly optimistic, that Mr. Trump’s legal challenges in several states would be able to change the trajectory of the race. The president himself tweeted a suggestion that “a large number of secretly dumped ballots” had cost him Michigan, a message Twitter quickly labeled misleading.
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Post by 溪山 on Nov 6, 2020 13:01:26 GMT -5
"They and several other aides had also tried and failed to get Mr. Trump to stop attacking an Arizona favorite son and war hero, Senator John McCain, a Republican whom the president has continued to criticize even after the senator’s death two years ago." --- A man reaps what he sows.
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Post by 溪山 on Nov 6, 2020 13:02:22 GMT -5
Top Republicans defend Trump on baseless voter fraud claims as concerns grow in the ranks www.cnn.com/2020/11/05/politics/election-2020-congressional-republicans-trump-election-fraud/index.htmlGOP Rep. Will Hurd of Texas, who is retiring at the end of his current term, suggested that the comments are "dangerous." "A sitting president undermining our political process & questioning the legality of the voices of countless Americans without evidence is not only dangerous & wrong, it undermines the very foundation this nation was built upon," Hurd tweeted.
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Post by 李斯 on Nov 6, 2020 14:58:16 GMT -5
这几天像坐过山车一样,一些州先蓝后红,一些州先红后蓝。选举结果出来的时间拖长了,不过这样也好,可以让双方都有一段缓冲时间去消化调整结果。
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Post by 溪山 on Nov 6, 2020 19:49:03 GMT -5
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Post by 溪山 on Nov 6, 2020 19:51:30 GMT -5
election fatigue on top of pandemic fatigue.
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Post by 溪山 on Nov 7, 2020 0:38:57 GMT -5
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Post by 特斯拉 on Nov 7, 2020 12:23:07 GMT -5
祝贺选举有了结果!
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Post by 听雨 on Nov 7, 2020 13:30:00 GMT -5
"兰陵美酒郁金香,玉碗盛来琥珀光。"
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Post by 李斯 on Nov 7, 2020 17:18:03 GMT -5
If I were his advisor, I'd tell him put politics aside and try to control the pandemic first. Because our lives are far more from normal now.
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Post by 溪山 on Nov 8, 2020 0:22:37 GMT -5
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Post by 李斯 on Nov 8, 2020 19:21:07 GMT -5
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Post by 李斯 on Nov 8, 2020 19:31:48 GMT -5
百分之七十五亚裔支持拜登,如果把亚裔改成华裔,这个数字可能要小一些。感觉这次华裔挺川普的不少。 29岁以下的年轻人百分之五十九、30-49岁之间百分之五十五支持民主党。 50岁以上差不多对半。
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Post by 李斯 on Nov 12, 2020 15:58:38 GMT -5
2020年亚裔美国选民调查 亚裔美国人是美国增长最快的种族群体,在2018年的中期选举中,亚裔美国人的投票率创下了纪录。随着2020年11月总统大选的临近,人们的热情也很高。 亚裔美国人在亚利桑那州、宾夕法尼亚州和北卡罗来纳州等几个竞争激烈的州成为很重要的群体。他们很可能在南加州、德克萨斯和新泽西以及其他州的国会选举中具有某种影响力。 2020年亚裔美国人选民调查包括全美国1569名亚裔注册选民样本。这项调查于2020年7月4日至9月10日进行,受访者来自中国、印度、韩国、越南、日本和菲律宾,调查语言为英语、汉语、韩语和越南语。这项调查是由APIA Vote、AAPI Data和亚裔美国人推进公正协会(aajc)共同发起的。 调查结果显示,亚裔注册选民对即将到来的总统选举表现出前所未有的热情。大多数已登记亚裔美国人(54%)表示,与以往的选举相比,他们对投票比以往更关注。 接受调查的大多数亚裔美国人(54%)计划投票给拜登,而计划支持共和党现任总统川普的只有30%。 拜登在所有接受调查的民族群体中都非常受欢迎,但越南人除外。在越南注册选民中,特朗普的支持率(48%)高于拜登的支持率(36%)。在所有亚裔美国人中,印度裔美国人最倾向于投票给拜登(66%)。与此同时,14%的亚裔注册选民对自己的总统选举选择仍未做出决定,其中华裔选民(22%)表示“尚未决定”的比例最高。 大多数亚裔注册选民还表示,他们将在众议院和参议院的选举中支持民主党候选人,而不是共和党候选人。再一次,这种支持民主党的趋势的例外是越南裔美国选民,总的来说,他们更有可能支持共和党的众议院和参议院候选人,而不是民主党候选人。 党派之争可能是造成亚裔美国人群体差异的原因。在被调查的亚裔美国人中,越南裔是唯一倾向共和党(38%)多于倾向民主党(28%)的群体,其中很大一部分人认为自己是无党派人士(34%) 虽然亚裔选民对投票很热情,但他们也对即将到来的选举表达了一些担忧。近一半(48%)的人说,他们担心11月的选举可能受到干扰。此外,由于COVID-19疫情,近一半人担心在投票现场投票的健康和安全。或许正因为如此,大多数亚裔注册选民(54%)表示,他们更喜欢通过邮件投票或缺席投票,而不是在选举日亲自投票(26%)。
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Post by 李斯 on Nov 12, 2020 16:06:58 GMT -5
转贴:
我为什么投票选川普
我是 2012 年为了儿子读书投资移民过来的。现在,我的儿子已经读大二了。我住在波士顿,从事保险代理。三年前,我参加了受洗仪式,成为基督徒。这次美国大选,我投了特朗普。如果我选拜登,他将毁掉这个国家。特朗普说"中国病毒"时,我觉得是不可原谅的。他的说法确实有问题,但如果跟一群坏人、一群魔鬼相提并论,我觉得特朗普稍微好一点。
我们这个镇大概有两万居民,华人占 15%左右。我估计大多数投给了特朗普,因为在居民群里,大家对现在的选举很失望。
从长远来看,拜登虽然给你一些糖果吃,但实际上他在破坏美国的秩序。他不要求过程公平,而是结果公平。他要每个人按比例享受公平,而不是鼓励大家努力。民主党要照顾少数族裔,但他们不把华人当少数族裔。虽然我们的人数比黑人、墨西哥人少,但在他们眼里,我们是模范少数民族(Model Minority),我们是精英,我们不需要照顾。所有的好处从我们这里拿走。
华人的传统是倾尽全家之力来帮助孩子进步,让他们自食其力,在社会上有一席之地。我为什么移民过来?是为了孩子读书,对不对?别的族裔的家长,他们没那么重视教育。不能因为他们的父母没有尽到责任,觉得他们的孩子可怜,就给予优待吧?民主党还给低收入人群乱发福利。发了之后,这些人就躺在那里吃福利,不去奋斗。但特朗普是鼓励奋斗的了。民主党制定的政策没有一个公平的规则。
在奥巴马上台时,这个国家就很分裂。那个时候,警察就不敢抓黑人犯罪。媒体上总报道警察杀死了多少黑人,但很多警察也被黑人杀死了,怎么不说呢?警察为什么杀死黑人呢?那是因为黑人犯罪太多。黑人为什么犯罪呢?他们说因为受到歧视。这么多年都在补助黑人,结果是什么样子?给的资助有没有落到实处,有没有真正地帮助到黑人社区?
文明不是一直向前走的,社会也不是一直进步的。民主党还要打开大门欢迎难民过来,尤其是穆斯林难民。穆斯林把欧洲搞成什么样子了?法国连着几起穆斯林砍头案。如果不是特朗普上台,减少了穆斯林移民的话,法国的今天就是美国的今天。
特朗普不是种族歧视。他说,你来我的国家,就要认可我们的价值观。你不爱这个国家,你就不要来。对不对?很对啊。
民主党打开大门让什么人都来。这样就公平吗?比如我投资移民,是花了钱,花了时间的。我的钱不是从天上掉下来的,是努力工作挣的。其他人可能是科技移民、亲属移民,要等抽签,要经过审批,走漫长的程序。但非法移民呢?翻个墙、跨个山就过来了。来了之后,还要给他们福利。民主党的公平和博爱都是在打击遵守法律的人,善良的人。对高学历、工程师或在等待抽签的人来说,是一种伤害。
我不觉得民主党是真正的博爱。拜登一上台,马上要大赦那些犯罪分子,要给非法移民发绿卡,还要每年迎接 10 万的难民。这些人进来后,又成了民主党的票仓。他们不是为了这个国家,只是为了党派自身的利益。
四年前,特朗普上台。他是不是民选的总统?当然是。但民主党有一天承认过他吗?没有。媒体都在唱黑特朗普,一天到晚断章取义,没有一句公道话。特朗普刚上台那天,加州闹得乱七八糟,打砸抢烧什么的。全国人民都觉得黑暗降临。然后,开始莫须有的弹劾罪名,完全没有把这个合法政府放在眼里,就为了一己私利搞得乌烟瘴气。
特朗普在位的四年,恐怖袭击没有了,那些支持民主党的却不当一回事。但我觉得很安全。我住在波士顿B镇,周边有很多社区学校,以前时不时都会收到电话威胁,说有炸弹。学校找警察排除,再发消息给家长。像哈佛、麻省理工等名校也是,经常收到这样的威胁。但特朗普上台后,我一次都没有听说过学校收到了恐吓电话。奥巴马在任时,叙利亚闹得乱七八糟;特朗普上台后,把ISIS 干掉了,但有人说过他的好话吗?这对特朗普很不公平。
理性的人知道,特朗普有很多的缺点,乱讲话、欠缺常识,平时爱说谎,这些都是华人不喜欢的。但总体来讲,他一切都是为了美国的利益,如果在美国的话,我们要承认这一点。
拜登不是为了美国利益,而是政党、个人的利益,有的人看不清这点。我们州大麻也合法了。现在俄勒冈州(拜登赢得初选的州)持有海洛因也合法了,这不毒害社会吗?民主党所做的一切,哪一点是为了人民好,为了这个国家好?
看看加州那边,950美金以下不算犯罪(2014年加州公投通过第47号提案,将低于950美元的财产犯罪,包括偷窃、入店行窃等降为轻罪)。黑人拿着袋子到超市装东西,超市的人不敢管他。房子空着,如果有人搬进去,并且交了水电费,住5年后那房子就可能归他了,没有保护私人财产(加州《逆权侵占法》,保障未经屋主许可入侵房屋居住者的权益)。
这次大选,拜登集团作假大家都看到了,但没有人去谴责他们。他的选民没有,媒体也没有。你说正常吗?这个社会已经堕落得没有道德底线了。
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Post by 边 草 on Nov 17, 2020 23:53:17 GMT -5
Hilarious and yet, must see video Omg, it just keeps me in stitches tonight.
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Post by 边 草 on Nov 18, 2020 9:59:47 GMT -5
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Post by 溪山 on Nov 19, 2020 1:38:48 GMT -5
haha, second childhood.
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Post by 边 草 on Nov 22, 2020 22:39:43 GMT -5
看来官司一定要打到高院去的。估计最高法院大法官不会接手。大法官也怕被冠上党派立场,尤其是John Roberts.
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